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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 24, 2012 9:07 am
Hangs sign on door, gone on vacation, be back in 34 days when training camp opens.

But Holmgren says, there could be some surprises on roster moves..  What does he mean by that?

Cutting Hardly Hardesty?  Parting ways with Colt McCoy.  Stay tuned...  maybe they will sign some more rookie free agents...

It's only 11 weeks until opening day...  

Go Browns, beat the Eagles... 
WahooJake
SinceSep 1, 2008
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 24, 2012 11:03 am

Packers wide receiver James Jones talked this week about being part of a deep wide receiver group in Green Bay and admitted to occasional moments of frustration when it comes to getting in line for opportunities.

Jones also gave his hypothetical reaction to a trade, which involves a few tears and then a quick move to the new team. Jones’ name comes up now and again as a trade possibility, although it is hard to say if that’s just because it makes sense that the Packers would make a move from strength to shore up other weaknesses or if teams have really been engaging in conversation.

According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Browns are not one of the teams involved in any such conversation. In a response to a mailbag question about trading Colt McCoy to Green Bay for Jones, Cabot writes that the Browns are not interested in adding Jones to their receiving corps.

The Browns have Greg Little and Mohamed Massaquoi as starting receivers at the moment and they may want to give both a chance to establish themselves this season. With Josh Cribbs ticketed for primarily special teams work, there isn’t a lot of depth behind the starters and whatever depth they do have is very short on experience. Jones would definitely be an upgrade to the group, although the lack of Cleveland interest in a deal and the absence of clear signs that Jones will be traded make it hard to see him catching passes from Brandon Weeden this season.

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 24, 2012 11:10 am
for some odd reason H&H Continue to say that the WR are more than okay ?????? the whole world dissagrees with them . we all cant be wrong and they be right about them ..can they ?

if they hold us back this year the venom directed at the front office will not be printable Surprised


James Jones makes perfect sense . he has had his share of drops so maybe not . we have enough of those on the roster .

i have my doubts about the unit as a whole . i am a prove it to me kinda guy .so far they have proven to be inadequate at best .

i hope you guys are right about the WR & Hardesty . the Browns need all the help they can get to turn this embarrasing mess around .
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 24, 2012 6:50 pm

Best to keep ‘light switch’ on

<small> Posted by Bernie Kosar on <abbr title="2012-06-21T21:25:15+0000"> June 21, 2012 – 9:25 pm </abbr> </small>

By Bernie Kosar, Special Contributor to ClevelandBrowns.com

Here are my takes on the Browns made while appearing on “Cleveland Browns Daily, Driven by Liberty Ford”:

The time between now and the start of training camp is a test of the players’ ability to stay focused while also getting a little time to relax before putting on the pads and going through the next phase of preparing for the season.

This is especially true for the younger guys. Working out and staying in the game mentally not only are helpful to getting them ready to play their best, but they also help keep them from the distractions of all the new friends and family they have because this is their first chance at money. And sometimes, all of those additional people in their lives will tend to take them away from staying in shape, being ready for training camp, and being ready for preseason games.

For the undrafted free agents, it makes sense for them to be plugged in as much as possible during this so-called down time, to keep learning, to keep growing. They not only will help their chances of making the final roster, but also help the chances of the Browns being a better team.

The politically right thing to say and the easy thing to say is, yeah, you want get away from it for a little bit, but you continue to work out. The reality of it is that football – especially at age 22, 23, 24 – is so exciting. For me, it’s so fun, it’s so important, that I never let it go away. I never checked out. I never put the light switch off.

And the guys who put the light switch off and then think they’re going to flip the light switch on and they’re going to be at a hundred percent are wrong. It does not happen.

You have your whole life to relax and have fun. It’s not now, though. Now is about playing football. And even though it’s four or five weeks off, you still have to work out. You still have to think about your plays, your assignments, your details of assignment, the details of how you run your position.

I always tell the younger guys, “Yeah, you can relax and maybe tone it down some. But you can never check out and flip the light switch completely off.”

Be sure to catch Bernie Kosar’s regular appearances with Vic Carucci on “Cleveland Browns Daily, Driven by Liberty Ford,” Monday through Friday, 6-7 p.m. ET, live on ESPN 850 WKNR and ClevelandBrowns.com

Riff-Raff714
SinceApr 17, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 24, 2012 9:49 pm
This is Fujita’s final season of his contract with the Browns, and he is slated to make $3.6 million. Of that $3.6 million, $684, 375 has already been paid out in the form of a bonus. He originally signed a three-year, $14 million contract prior to the 2010 season.

As you can see, the Browns’ wouldn’t be taking a major hit if they decided to part ways with Fujita—a move that is highly recommendable. Between the distractions, the lack of production and the new, young talent the team acquired in the draft, it just does not make sense to hold on to Fujita any longer.
Considering the linebacking position has been a point of contention for a while now, they better hold onto all the able bodies they can.  If Fujita isn't going to start for three games, the rookies will already be getting some nice experience.  Throw in pre-season games just to get their feet wet, from a rookie POV who could ask for more?  I have a feeling Heckert made some nice decisions late-rounds with these guys.  I was hoping the Browns would take Acho, and I like everything I am hearing about Johnson.  The fact that Cleveland is $17.7 million under the cap according to one posting and they shouldn't worry about salary.  Fujita may be on the decline, yet he still knows his way around the NFL.  He has seen virtually every team in the league more than a couple of times.  If he isn't the consensus lead tackler of that group he can still give good support.   He may have lost a step, but he knows where to be and when.  That could help make up for injuries and questionable ability.
longbombgudnite
SinceSep 15, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 25, 2012 4:31 pm

<span style="color: #000080;"> 38 KINDER, GENTLER WAYS TO SAY SOMEONE IS STUPID

  1. A few clowns short of a circus
  2. A few fries short of a Happy Meal
  3. An experiment in artificial stupidity
  4. A few beers short of a six-pack
  5. Dumber than a box of hair
  6. A few peas short of a casserole
  7. Doesn't have all his cornflakes in one box
  8. The wheel's spinning but the hamster's dead
  9. One Froot Loop shy of a full bowl
  10. One taco short of a combo plate
  11. A few feathers short of a whole duck
  12. All foam, no beer
  13. The cheese slid off the cracker
  14. Body by Fisher - Brains by Mattel
  15. Has an IQ of 2 and it takes 3 to grunt
  16. Warning: Objects in mirror are dumber than they appear
  17. Couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel
  18. He fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down
  19. An intellect rivaled only by garden tools
  20. As smart as bait
  21. Chimney's clogged
  22. Doesn't have all his dogs on one leash
  23. Doesn't know much but leads the league in nostril hair
  24. Elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor
  25. Forgot to pay his brain bill
  26. Her sewing machine's out of thread
  27. His antenna doesn't pick up all the channels
  28. His belt doesn't go through all the loops
  29. If he had another brain it would be lonely
  30. Missing a few buttons on his remote control
  31. No grain in the silo
  32. Proof that evolution CAN go in reverse
  33. Receiver is off the hook
  34. Several nuts short of a full pouch
  35. Skylight leaks a little
  36. Slinky's kinked
  37. Surfing in Nebraska
  38. Too much yardage between the goal posts
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 25, 2012 5:13 pm
Well it's been a helluva week....I haven't had a computer since my Dell crashed and burned last week. STUPID PIECE OF CRAP!Yell


So here I am, back up and runnin on a brand new system, just a mere $750.00 later....I was surprised to see that I lost in fantasy baseball last week.   Had a real solid week, but it wasn't enough to beat Bux.  He has a really awesome team.....Joey Votto and Mike Trout are scary good.

Oh well, iguess the bright side is that I might actually be able to access the fantasy football draft room on Yahoo this year! lol!   So yeah, i guess it was totally worth it!
     










TOPDAWG
SinceOct 12, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 2:42 am

NFL rookies heard from Michael Vick and Pacman Jones at the rookie symposium on Monday, with those two veterans of the NFL — and the judicial system — telling this year’s draft picks how to stay out of trouble off the field. And the rookies also heard from a doctor who told them what to do when they find themselves hurting on the field.

Dr. Mark Schickendantz, the head physician for the Cleveland Browns, told rookies that concealing head injuries and concussions is a major problem in the NFL, and that the players need to take it upon themselves to alert team doctors when they’re feeling symptoms.

Don’t try to hide it,” Schickendantz said. “A little ding is not just a little ding.”

Schickendantz seems like a strange choice for the NFL to present as an expert on concussions because last season’s most infamous undiagnosed concussion happened on his watch. Browns quarterback Colt McCoy took a brutal helmet-to-helmet hit from Steelers linebacker James Harrison, suffered a concussion, and was cleared to go back into the game anyway. Browns President Mike Holmgren said afterward that Schickendantz checked McCoy out and “was looking at his face and his eyes” and didn’t think McCoy had suffered a concussion.

At the rookie symposium, Shickendantz said the league cares about the players’ well-being.

“Our only agenda is your health and safety,” he said. “It’s about you, not about us.”

The reality is it’s about everyone. It’s true that players sometimes avoid getting checked out by team doctors because they don’t want to be removed from games, and it’s true that’s a very bad idea. But it’s also true that sometimes players are mistakenly cleared to return to games even when they have been checked out by team doctors, and that’s a bad mistake.

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 3:05 am
So here I am, back up and runnin on a brand new system, just a mere $750.00 later....
Dude you should have got a Dell ...

LOL I actually don't mean that but I couldn't resist. Tongue out
beachbum312
SinceSep 17, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 4:29 am
LOL I actually don't mean that but I couldn't resist. Tongue out
Dell sux!!

You can get a store bought HP and it will have better components than a custom built Dell...I have a 11 year old desktop that is still running on it's original components for the kids(My oldest received a Dell from her mom's(my ex) parents and it has been to the OSU tech department 4 times in two years), an 8 year old laptop and a 5 year old laptop and they combined have not had half the issues as my current 2 year old Dell that my boss insisted on buying...

As prices drop, the previous two laptops cost me about $2,100 and this idiot spent $2,300 on my current machine and it doesn't even have a video card??? A current machine without a dedicated video card??? Who the hell does that?

Now, if I want to do a customer presentation, I take my old HP so that the video works properly.

My wife's Gateway has better video than this stupid machine.

BTW...last year my second oldest got her first HP and my 3rd oldest just got her first Netbook(not an HP, she hasn't earned it yet at 9 years old)...
Irish Dawg 42
SinceOct 6, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 8:01 am

I've actually had pretty good luck with Dell.  Had two of them over the past 15 years.


Then again, those of you who frequent porn sites assume the risk.  Innocent
Lymanacoconut
SinceSep 4, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 4:59 pm
I've actually had pretty good luck with Dell.  Had two of them over the past 15 years.

i bought my first & only puter in 2006 ..i paid out the azz for a Dell ..$2.300.00 for a Dell XP Multimedia dual core double  hard drive jabob dohinkey watchamacallit Embarassed


i have had some issues with it ..i about took a ball bat to it more than once Yell . i have replaced a video card and am down to one hard drive instead of two . but as long as it keeps working ,..crosses fingers i wont get another one till this thing blows up for good .. yes Dell customer service SUCKED ..I kept getting some  towel head who barely spoke English the first time i called them ..after i raised all holy hell with them did i get a American who worked with me on the issues i was having .

i bought Speedy PC registry cleaner ..best $$$ i have spent .takes care of the porn issues Sealed  no issues since i ran it . it runs twice a week ..once again knocks on wood the thing keeps on keeping on .

the sound card in this thing ROCKS ..I bought a nice set of  speakers with a sub woofer at Staples for $ 50.00 . You Tube jams Cool. i have the same SN on  my account there with tons of music .. racing & of course Browns clips .

hey i can now type with two fingers Laughing
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 5:00 pm
Yell


since when is T.O.W.E.L H.E.A.D A Bad thing ?????????????
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 5:02 pm
if that offends some Muslim .good i could care less about you nut jobs Laughing
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 5:46 pm
i bought my first & only puter in 2006 ..i paid out the azz for a Dell ..$2.300.00 for a Dell XP Multimedia dual core double  hard drive jabob dohinkey watchamacallit Embarassed

Bought my 1st (also a Dell, tower) in '90. Sucker cost me 36 hundred...complete with 96 baud modem, 20 meg HD, 5.25" floppy drive, 17" monitor & all the rest of the top end 'bells & whistles' available then  Foot in mouth
CaptObvious
SinceJan 27, 2009
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 6:02 pm
LMAO!  Chris Perez needs a reality check....Uhhhhhhmmmm "newsflash" Mr. Perez;  Football is the most popular sport in America by far! Oddly enough, that's not just in Cleveland, but nationwide.  Give us break for crying out loud...Sorry that your sport just doesn't stack up with football in the minds of the majority of Americans. Your going to lose to football every single time, especially in Ohio.  Thats just the way it is.  Geez dude, know your place in life before you let fly with stupidity.  The Indians are 2 games over .500 and seem to be fading fast with inconsistant pitching, and no offense at all.....You'd think his concerns would be elsewhere.....
TOPDAWG
SinceOct 12, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 6:45 pm
Don't get wrong.  I love baseball.....It's easily my 2nd favorite sport.  I just don't understand Perez jumping on the Cleveland fans and accusing them of "blindly following" the Browns.  How absurd.....


We love our football, and we love our Browns, but we aren't blind.....These have been trying times, but Browns fans, understandibly, have reason to be optimistic this year.  If CP just doesn't get that, i suggest that he do what Bluez allready suggested, and just shut the hell up!


I agreed with him the last time he took a stand, but I think he jumped in WAY over his head on this one....    
TOPDAWG
SinceOct 12, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 26, 2012 7:42 pm
I agreed with him the last time he took a stand, but I think he jumped in WAY over his head on this one....  

Same here ..but this time he crossed the line


ya just dont slam Browns fans without some serious backlash


this is coming from a guy who grew up in Florida..err Cuba Sealed ..the biggest bandwagon non pro team supporting state that there is


SHMUCK ....STHU Yell
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 1:18 am
The Cleveland Browns selected Travis Benjamin, the speedy wide receiver with the fifth pick of the fourth round.

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If you can’t teach speed then Travis Benjamin has earned his honorary master’s degree.

4.36 seconds.

That was his time in the 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine last February. Benjamin’s time tied Georgia Tech’s Stephen Hill and Stanford’s Chris Owusu for the fastest among receivers. The trio finished tops among all offensive players.

Benjamin can flat fly. Well, I’ll let new Browns quarterback Brandon Weeden describe Benjamin in his own words.

“Yeah, he can fly,” Weeden said on June 5. “We were joking about that, the wind coming this way so when we’re going toward the facility you have to let it go a few steps early because he can go. Downwind it’s not so bad, but if you’re trying to throw into any kind of breeze, you have to let it go and keep it pretty tight.”

At a rookie minicamp practice last May, Shurmur asked Weeden to “let one rip on a vertical and see if (Benjamin) can go get it.” Weeden oblighed. Although the pass fell incomplete, a good first impression was made.

“That guy has another gear,” Weeden said.

“Knowing my speed, I know I could mostly run past anybody so I just work on the little things like coming in and out of my breaks and focusing more on the ball,” Benjamin said on June 12.

After his senior season at Miami, Benjamin finished as one of only six Hurricanes players with more than 2,000 receiving yards and his 3,874 all-purpose yards was good for third-best in program history.

The Cleveland Browns selected Travis Benjamin with the fifth pick of the fourth round. Much has been made about the team’s lack of talent at the wide receiver position. Yet if Benjamin is that fast and that talented, why was he selected in the fourth round?

Benjamin comes in a 5-feet, 10-inches and 172 pounds. According to his prospect profile on NFL.com, “His game is based entirely on speed and quickness. He has a hard time getting off the line of scrimmage if not given a free release, lacking the strength to recover if jammed by a more physical defender.”

Still, Benjamin has that speed and explosiveness this Browns team — especially the offense — so desperately lacks. In the weeks leading into the 2012 season, eyes will be on Benjamin to see if he can contribute right away. The Browns think he could. Not only will he see a lot of reps at training camp, but based on his size, quickness and the man who drafted him, he will also see plenty of DeSean Jackson comparisons.

Browns general manager Tom Heckert was with the Philadelphia Eagles when the team selected Jackson in the second round of the 2008 NFL Draft. Jackson’s pre-draft measurables were eerily similar to Benjamin’s: 5-9, 169 pounds and a 4.35 40-yard dash.

Let the comparisons begin.

Jackson has flourished in the NFL. In four seasons, Jackson caught 229 balls for 4,085 yards with 21 touchdowns in a West Coast Offense. He is also dynamic in the return game. He’s fast and proves a difficult matchup for defensive backs, wherever the Eagles line him up.

The Browns need that kind of production from a wide receiver — any wide receiver, at this point — as well as a return man. Last season, Josh Cribbs did not put up the type of return game numbers everyone has come to expect. At wide out and in the return game, Benjamin adds another (very fast) option.

“I think we’ve seen where he can catch the ball in the deep part of the field,” Browns coach Pat Shurmur said on June 12. “It’s nice to be able to run fast but as you’re far away from the quarterback, being able to track the ball is something that you need to be able to do, and I think he can do that. He is a good route runner.”

So far, in essentially helmets and shorts, Benjamin looks good. Is he the Browns’ version of DeSean Jackson. The stars are lining up to answer, yes, he can, but there is still a long way to go before Sept. 9.

“We can’t bump and run in these camps,” Shurmur said. “So I can’t see him against press coverage, but from what I can tell he has the quickness to separate. We’ll know more about all that once we get into training camp.”


bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 1:23 am
Troy Smith's second stint in the rugged AFC North did not last nearly as long as his first.

On Monday, the Pittsburgh Steelers announced that the team has decided to part ways with the Heisman trophy winning, former Ohio State star.

Pittsburgh signed Smith--who spent the 2011 season with the Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League--to a free agent contract back in January. However, after the Steelers re-signed veteran backups Charlie Batch and Byron Leftwich to a pair of one-year deals last month, Smith became expendable.

Originally a fifth-round draft pick of the Ravens in 2007, Smith spent three seasons in Baltimore--primarily as a backup--before being released and subsequently signed by the San Francisco 49ers in 2010.

Smith's best shot to emerge as an NFL starter came in San Francisco, where he started six games under former head coach Mike Singletary. However, he completed just 50.3 percent of his passes and had 10 turnovers (six fumbles, four interceptions) while throwing just five touchdowns, and was not re-signed after the season.

Some analysts had predicted that Smith could stick with the Steelers as a developmental project, but it appears that the team has decided to hand that role to 6'5", 250-pound, former Texas A&M quarterback Tyron Johnson.

Smith's release from Pittsburgh could very well signal the end of his opportunity in the NFL. While a quarterback-needy team could show interest in the athletic, multidimensional quarterback some time between now and September, his overall numbers (eight total starts, 51.7 completion percentage, 11 total touchdowns and 14 turnovers) leaves a lot to be desired.

A veritable superstar in college, Smith passed for 5,720  yards, rushed for an additional 1,197 and scored an impressive 68 total touchdowns during his Ohio State career. Smith also set an NCAA record by taking 86.7 percent of first-place votes in winning the Heisman trophy in 2006 and led the Buckeyes to an appearance in the BCS National Championship Game that season.

However, it is beginning to look like Smith may become another in a long list of college legends whose skill sets simply do not translate to NFL success.


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bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 3:50 am
Browns general manager Tom Heckert was with the Philadelphia Eagles when the team selected Jackson in the second round of the 2008 NFL Draft. Jackson’s pre-draft measurables were eerily similar to Benjamin’s: 5-9, 169 pounds and a 4.35 40-yard dash.
These numbers also remind me of a certain dependable and capable receiver in one Desmond Howard.  Since when did receivers have to be "Megatron(s)" to be effective in the NFL?  Yes, it comes it quite handily in jump ball situations, but if Benjamin could get separation, he should be able to catch a lot of balls with his speed.  Especially using him as the second or third guy could instill all kinds of fear in defenses.  If it ain't  broke don't fix it.  DeSean Jackson has been a powerful weapon in Philadelphia.  Let's hope Heckert really believes he has the second coming, and not just throwing stuff to see what sticks. From what I have seen of Benjamin I think he could fit the bill.  Unfortunately he wasn't exactly showcased in a prolific passing offense in college. 

A veritable superstar in college, Smith passed for 5,720  yards, rushed for an additional 1,197 and scored an impressive 68 total touchdowns during his Ohio State career. Smith also set an NCAA record by taking 86.7 percent of first-place votes in winning the Heisman trophy in 2006 and led the Buckeyes to an appearance in the BCS National Championship Game that season.

However, it is beginning to look like Smith may become another in a long list of college legends whose skill sets simply do not translate to NFL success.
*Cough* Chase McCoy * Cough*   Coach McCoy, what?
longbombgudnite
SinceSep 15, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 7:55 am
Anybody have updates on the contract situations with Richardson and Weeden?  Haven't heard anything lately.
DuffBeerDoug
SinceOct 25, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 9:43 am

Duff ..i search everyday for info on both Weeden & TRich contract situation . so much for the new CBA Having all draft picks signed before May 31 . from what i gather its the fourth year that is the hangup on the first round picks not being under contract . i would think that non will miss any time . i am sure that those days are over with .

 

anxious to get this season underway . its the slow time of year where news is scarce .



Goooo Browns !!!




WOOF WOOF WOOF

bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 9:47 am
As long as Benjamin doesnt act like Jackson all will be good . if he starts showboating before scoring . takes plays off .  acts like a total jerk off i will not be happy no matter what he does on the field .  spiking the ball before crossing the goal line is just Yell


he didnt have those issues in college so it shouldnt happen here
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 12:59 pm
All Good Music Festival


If it was the seventies still i could would do it Innocent . i dont think my body could handle a three day party like this will be .

i am considering heading to the valley for the Allman Bros band which is one of my all time favorites . its been to long since i saw them last .

i saw quite a few shows there back in the daze . its one hot place in the summer . that field really heats up . there is some shade to the right of the stage up on the hill . but i see that there are three stages so maybe there wont be any ? no matter as the Bros take the main stage at 10.00 pm on a Saturday night ..i can pitch a tent for one night .
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 27, 2012 3:56 pm
I agreed with him the last time he took a stand, but I think he jumped in WAY over his head on this one....    
Same here ..but this time he crossed the line


ya just dont slam Browns fans without some serious backlash
Yes, I actually liked his fire the last time...Don't speak ill of the Browns or their fans, otherwise expect backlash..

First and most certainly foremost.

Browns fans get an opportunity to make it to a maximum of 8 home Browns games per year...

Indians are in Cleveland for 82 games...maybe it's just me, but I am not going to make it out to more than 3-5 Indians games per season, which equates in price to 1-2 Browns games(and what I can afford to spend per season on them as well)...I think this is typical fan support in this economy.


The difference in fan support is this over the course of a sellout season:

Browns; 585,600 fans for a season's worth of games
Indians; 3,561,178 fans for a season's worth of games

At current pace the Indians will enjoy 1,509,456 fans coming through their gates in 2012...which any math wiz can tell you is almost 3 times as many Browns fans are capable of hitting the turnstyles down at Browns stadium.

It's semantics in the end...If the only games fans could go to were one weekend day per week, they would sell out EVERY home game, even at Browns ticket prices...

Irish Dawg 42
SinceOct 6, 2006
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 28, 2012 11:26 am
damn its hot ..stupid hot Yell


no sense in this crap
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 28, 2012 11:29 am
Got word last night from a friend of mines sister that a good buddy of mine had to vacate his home near Colorado Springs . him & his family are okay but they will lose there home to the raging fires out there .

i feel for those affected ..can it rain please to help those poor folks out .


can it rain here to help us out .


Mother Nature is being a real Muther ..quit it ya bitch !!
bluezhound32
SinceNov 8, 2007
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Dawg Pound Lounge ,

June 28, 2012 11:50 am
Mother Nature is being a real Muther ..quit it ya bitch !!
That's it, call her names to make her cry....Why didn't I think of that?



Seriously though, very sad thinking about all those out west going through this trying time. There has got to be a better way to fight these damn fires. With the technological boom, we are still dropping sand and foam...and unfortunately fire fighters...on these thousands of acres fires..

Come on science geniuses, help them out already!


Irish Dawg 42
SinceOct 6, 2006