Join the "Heat Haters" club now!

That's because these Heat losses are getting so boring and repetitive - doinking around at full health...."to stay heathy"...yeah, that makes a lot of sense!

"so DO tell everyone what YOU have to show for following this misbegotten bunch other than arrogant bragging and attempts to put down Lakers fans...?

using a sports team to feed his self esteem. kinda sad, really...       "

Says one of the founding fathers of this thread which is used to attempt to do the very same thing. Too funny.

"I am a Laker fan and no matter what team you cheer for, we're better than you, because we've won more titles than you."

It's called built-in ego buffer. When the current Laker season goes down the toilet (currently circling the bowl), Laker fans will revert to leaning of decades-old championships, claiming that no matter how much better the other teams are than them THIS year, they'll never catch up to them historically.

kinda sad, really... 

"Two Coach do your expected thoughtful post that Stephen A requires on a hate joining thread on what happens when two score all the points are scored by 2  babies. .   "

I am sure that in your mind this was a complete sentence that makes sense. There has been an obvious breakdown in the transmission of that thought from your brain to your post, however. I think you are trying to ask me/heckle me about the crappy showing by the non-Big-3 players of the Heat against Indiana last night. I agree that this is a problem, just as it would be a problem for any team to only get 11 points from outside their three best players.

Fortunately for Miami, it doesn't happen very often. Miami in general looked pretty uninterested last night. Lots of guys standing around watching the Pacers grab offenseive rebounds. Not much fight to them. I'd be pissed if I was the coach or a ticketholder, but I'm not either. The regular season is meaningless for the Top 4 seeds in each conference. Win enough to get home court and keep the legs fresh for the playoffs. The NBA regular season is about 20+ games too long. Boring, meaningless games for the teams that matter in the long run.

"That's because these Heat losses are getting so boring and repetitive - doinking around at full health...."to stay heathy"...yeah, that makes a lot of sense! "

Did you watch the game last night? No effort to get rebounds whatsoever. A pitiful effort by every player outside the Big 3. Sorry that you are frustrated that the Heat can put in less than full effort and still be one of the best teams in the league while your Lakers are putting in less than full effort and getting WAXED for it.

It's called built-in ego buffer. When the current Laker season goes down the toilet (currently circling the bowl), Laker fans will revert to leaning of decades-old championships, claiming that no matter how much better the other teams are than them THIS year, they'll never catch up to them historically.

kinda sad, really... 

Kinda sad for LAL fans, it's fun for all/most other fans.

I have never posted on this thread, but I guess I will now.  I actually dislike the Heat, but Im a Celtic fan and that is to be expected.  What I can't stand about Heat fans is this, it is real simple.
Many of you are BANDWAGON fans.  For example some of you are Dallas Cowboy fans, Detroit Red Wing fans, and San Fransico Giants fans and you live in Arizona.  This is classic bandwagon.  Some of you are even Chicago Blackhawks fans, Chicago Bears fans, and Chicago Cubs fans, then all the sudden your Heat fans too.  That is a bandwagon fan.
The Heat came into existence in 1988, that is around 25 years ago.  The Heat were an abyssmal team for their first 4 years of existence.  So that tells me that anyone who is over 25 and doen't live in Miami or even Florida, makes you a bandwagon fan.  Most of you have never heard of Rony Siekly or Sherman Douglas or Rory Sparrow.
If you're over 25, and don't live in Miami or Florida, then you must have had a favorite team before the Heat.  Or at 35 did you just decide to become a fan of the NBA.  If this is true then you have no idea who Larry Bird is, or Micheal Jordan, or Magic  Johnson. 

That's because these Heat losses are getting so boring and repetitive - doinking around at full health...."to stay heathy"...yeah, that makes a lot of sense!

Still in first place in the EC, pretty sure they didn't shoot for 73 wins this season or even 11 wins in January.

Hondo 8 Rings,

So any Boston fans outside of MA is bandwagon?   Chicago fans outside of IL?  LAL outsides of CA? etc...   According to you, then all fans should be with the oldest, winningest teams then?

There are many other reasons to be a fan, to reduce fanbase to just location and age is just absurd

Let me cut and paste from Realdeal's post.   There is a large group of Heat fan base as #4.   It's one of the good reasons.

Let me point out the groups that compromise Most of the Heat fan base:

1- Ex fans of teams who had never won a title and were sick of the Lakers and Celtics and Spurs winning title year after year so they decided to join the heat fanbase just to try to be part of the latest new thing in the NBA, the big 2.5 merge. And keep denying to themselves that they never followed another team...exhibit A..turnip.little pizza man


2- New and clueless NBA fans who have no loyalty to any franchise  and pick a team based on Jersey sales and TV commercials.  exhibit A peedmyshorts

3- Miami heat ex fans who had moved on and given up on their franchise and left them for dead but who dediced to come back and claim they never left when the big 2.5 were formed. exhibit A..too many to name.

Be honest and dont try to tell us you guys dont fit in one of those groups.

I'd like to add a 4th group that may be actually larger than some realize.  There are many fans, who are not actually "fans" of the Heat, but root for LeBron (and the Heat) because they feel like he went through some of the most ridiculous critism that they had seen in a long time.  And by always trying to defend against such ridiculous claims, those people, by nature, found themselves rooting for a player and a team that they previously had little interest in at all.  So in the end, it was the accusations that came from the "haters" that caused a lot of the LeBron and Heat "fanbase" to increase. 

Obviously, I fall into this 4th group. 

Actually you read my post wrong, you can live in Florida and be a Boston Red Sox, New England Patriots, Boston Bruins, and Boston Celtics fan.  That is fine. 
One can still cheer for Lebron, but to make the Heat your team, because of one player, makes you a bandwagon fan.  Were you a Clevland Cavalier fan?  I would consider you a Bandwagon fan.  I loved Jon Stockton and Jeff Hornacek as players, but never was I a Utah Jazz fan.

Hondo 8 rings

You're contradicting yourself here:

For example some of you are Dallas Cowboy fans, Detroit Red Wing fans, and San Fransico Giants fans and you live in Arizona.  This is classic bandwagon.  Some of you are even Chicago Blackhawks fans, Chicago Bears fans, and Chicago Cubs fans, then all the sudden your Heat fans too.  That is a bandwagon fan.

So you have to stay with one team forever?   You can't add teams to your book?

The Heat came into existence in 1988, that is around 25 years ago.  The Heat were an abyssmal team for their first 4 years of existence.  So that tells me that anyone who is over 25 and doen't live in Miami or even Florida, makes you a bandwagon fan.

So you can't be outside of Miami and be a Heat fan?

Actually you read my post wrong, you can live in Florida and be a Boston Red Sox, New England Patriots, Boston Bruins, and Boston Celtics fan.  That is fine. 

Look at the previous quote, do you see a double standard here?

But you can't live in Boston and be a Miami Heat's fan?

One can still cheer for Lebron, but to make the Heat your team, because of one player, makes you a bandwagon fan.  Were you a Clevland Cavalier fan?  I would consider you a Bandwagon fan.  I loved Jon Stockton and Jeff Hornacek as players, but never was I a Utah Jazz fan.

So, if you like M. Jordan as a (NC) college player, but he went to Chicago, you'll cheer for him as a player only?   You'd rather him get 40 points, 12 rb, 12 as everynight but his team to lose every game?

Translate that player as one of your sons (assuming you have one), really?   You can't be his team's fan?

Nevermind some people never get it, clearly anyone who is a Heat fan because they feel bad about the way Lebron was treated is a bandwagon fan.  Lebron is a multi-millionaire and has no sympathy for you. 
Can't stand the whole cutting and pasting thing.
Is Lebron your son?

No you can't add teams, your allowed one team, that is it.  Adding teams is bandwagon jumping, the epitome of bandwagon fan. 

Hahaha, you amazed me.

I have never been a hypocrite on bandwagon fans.  It is really easy to tell if someone is, you are.  Unless Lebron is your son.

"That's because these Heat losses are getting so boring and repetitive - doinking around at full health...."to stay heathy"...yeah, that makes a lot of sense!"

Did you watch the game last night? No effort to get rebounds whatsoever. A pitiful effort by every player outside the Big 3. Sorry that you are frustrated that the Heat can put in less than full effort and still be one of the best teams in the league while your Lakers are putting in less than full effort and getting WAXED for it.

twocoach, I'm not frustrated because I know that there is a systemic reason that the Lakers are losing these games which has little to do with "pitiful effort", but hey, if you're cool with your team doinking it around and putting forth these pitiful efforts while treading water in a weak conference while still relying wholly on maximum efforts from your "Three Kings" during these regular season games - hey, whatever floats your boat.

It's funny that in one breath you're saying that this "doinking around" with your team at full health is all about staying healthy for the playoffs, but LeBron is playing through a sore ankle, knee and shoulder - minor injuries to be sure, but they seem to be piling up nonetheless.  I'm sure the PEDs are helping him stay on the court and have reduced these minor injuries to more of an annoyance than anything else, but you have to wonder about the sense in putting forth these middling (losing) efforts while maximizing your reliance on your "Three Kings."

I have never been a hypocrite on bandwagon fans.  It is really easy to tell if someone is, you are.  Unless Lebron is your son

I believe you have it all reversed.   I live South Florida and have been Miami's fan for a long time through their ups and downs.   I didn't become Boston, LAL, Chicago's fan when they were/became great.   Something I couldn't say about many fans: claiming they became Lakers' fan when M. Johnson played for them or cheered for the Celtics after Larry Bird joined the team.

Did you become Boston's fan when they started winning, or maybe you were too young?   Or maybe you just moved there when they started winning?

Again, is it OK to be Miami Heat's fan one lives in Boston?   Or is it only OK the other way around?

"I have never posted on this thread, but I guess I will now.  I actually dislike the Heat, but Im a Celtic fan and that is to be expected.  What I can't stand about Heat fans is this, it is real simple.
Many of you are BANDWAGON fans. "

The vast majority of Laker or Celtic fans are similar bandwagon fans, just from a different era. 25 years ago, the only teams that were regularly on TV were the Lakers and Celtics. If you grew up in the Bird/Magic era, you typically picked one of these two teams unless you lived in an NBA city and had a different team to cheer for.

Which means that most picked them as their favorites because they were the good teams of the day and have simply continued to follow them. Very few Boston or LA fans are actually from Boston or LA area. If you chose them as kids and continued to cheer for them your whole life, you are still by definition a BANDWAGON fan, as you chose them because they were good. No one chose to be a Celtics fan during the crappy years.

I am 40 and have lived all over the country. I lived in Kansas City when the Kings were still there, Detroit during the Bad Boys era, I lived on the east coast in the Philly area, in Cleveland for a while pre-James and then in Indianapolis during the height of the Reggie Miller era. While I was a Celtics fan growing up (see Bird/Magic note above) and have cheered for them during Paul Pierce's career (one of my favorite KU Jayhawks), I cheer for Miami to do well simply to stick it to the ignorant blowhards that have shown up to flap their gums in regards to James, his decision and the team. And I am quite certain that there are many people out there like me rooting for them for the same reason.

Some people are simply ignorant lemmings that like to stand anonymously amongst the mob and scream their protests. I simply choose to enjoy good players playing good basketball. I don't really have a "team" per se, but I find myself supporting the Heat on here simply because they have the most retarded fans cheering against them. Lots of stupid comments to reply to keeps my time on these boards interesting.

clearly anyone who is a Heat fan because they feel bad about the way Lebron was treated is a bandwagon fan.

Hondo:  You said that you were a fan of Stockton when he was playing.  Would it be safe to say that if the Jazz were playing anyone besides the Celtics, you were rooting for the Jazz to win?  I ask, because that is me with the Heat.  I am a Sixers fan, and a fan of all things Philly.  But, because I want LeBron to show that the numerous, unjust criticisms are false, I tend to root for LeBron (and the Heat, because LeBron's legacy is tied to the Heat winning).  I think this might be the case with a lot of other people who root for the Heat.  I do admit, that there are probably plenty that just want to root for a great team with the best player on it, though.   
 

"Nevermind some people never get it, clearly anyone who is a Heat fan because they feel bad about the way Lebron was treated is a bandwagon fan.  "

SO WHAT? Do you really think that anyone gives two flying pigs about what your opinion of their fandom level is? I couln't care less about it. I don't care WHY you cheer for what team and I have zero interst or need to explain why I cheer for who I cheer for. You have NO IDEA what led to certain people cheering for certain teams. WHO CARES!

It's so ridiculous that people are so desperate to find some way to put others down and to try to find a way to prop themselves up just a little higher than others. Pathetic. Are you so mentally weak that you need to denigrate the fan level of others just to feel better? Do you honestly think you are going to shame people into stopping cheering for the teams they choose to cheer for?

If you want to add something to the conversation that has something to do with BASKETBALL, then by all means feel free. I love to hear other people's takes on what they see on the court. There are a lot of people on these threads that know a lot about basketball. I learn a lot by reading their breakdowns of what they see out there. I don't get to see as many games so it's fun to hear from other fans. If you wantr to break down why the Celticas are going to beat the Heat in the playoffs, let's hear it. If you want to break down how Miami played against Indiana and what that might mean going forward, have at it.

If you want to whine about the origins of a fanbase, then take that whine somewhere else. NO ONE CARES. It is completely pointless and has no value to the conversation.

 If you chose them as kids and continued to cheer for them your whole life, you are still by definition a BANDWAGON fan, as you chose them because they were good.

 I agree with this statement if someone grew up in a designated NBA city, like Philadelphia, yet became a fan of the Lakers in the 80's, even if they stuck with the team.  That's rule #1 for me.  If you grow up in an NBA city, you are born into a fanbase.  Now, if you grew up in "Jabip", Idaho, then you had better pick a team and stick with it.  This could go either way as far as bandwagining goes, but I tend to lean towards it not being a bandwagon fan, because, heck, they live in Idaho, let them have their good team... haha.