Because, twocoach, I submit to you that item #2 was a smokescreen and that for as long as it took Riley to clear enough space to sign all "Three Kings", it was a foregone conclusion that Wade, James & Bosh would be playing in Miami come '10-'11. All of whatever constituted the rest of their so-called respective free agency periods was nothing more than a dog-and-pony show for any other team looking to bid for their services."whereas your "Three Kings" opted to gang up with eachother in a coordinated manipulation of the free agency system, with Lebron and Bosh spurning their former teams in the process."A coordinated manipulation of the free agency system? If you mean:
1) Become a free agent
2) Talk to the teams that are interested in you
3) Talk to perspective teammates
4) Sign with the team that meets the criteria that you have
Then, yes, they MANIPULATED the system. How is it that their signings were manipulations, yet everyone else's is just a simple free agent signing?
No. I was referring to Gasol with the Lakers and then Garnett being traded to Boston by McHale. I never mentioned the Lakers as getting other players via trade from ex players.
Nice to have ex players running other teams that are willing to trade you current all star players for hope and potential, wasn't it?
O,IC...and you know for sure that he was dead set on getting himself traded? Oh, OK...well, I guess you'd know, wouldn't you!
As for LeBron and his "Decision" TV Special, lemme guess...this was something you supported? ...thought was a good thing?
What kind of stupid player would want to play with better players?? Shouldn't they want to continue to carry the team on their backs at all times by scoring 30 a night, but coming up short?
No, they shouldn't. Difference is Kobe remained the face of the franchise while taking whatever steps he felt were necessary to improve the team knowing that not only was his own legacy at stake, but the championship pedigree of the Los Angeles Lakers as well...whereas your "Three Kings" opted to gang up with eachother in a coordinated manipulation of the free agency system, with Lebron and Bosh spurning their former teams in the process.Lakers have a history of improving their teams via trade or Free Agency. Cleveland and Toronto do not. You know why they do not. Is it really that hard to comprehend???? Also, you're implying that a player has a lesser legacy if doesn't stay with the same team he was drafted by his whole career? Weird, I never hear people talk down Kareem's legacy for wanting out of Milwaukee. That's just one example.
"he raised money for kids". DO give it a rest. like he's the first player to EVER do that. think that'll ever impress me...?
as far as Bynum, for SURE the guy's a blockhead, but he hasn't reached the scum level yet. could he have done without tagging Barea, probably. but nothing he's gonna make a habit of IF he gets his head screwed on right...
Even if he did it by holding a regular presser, you guys would still have been pissed. It bothered Cleveland fans the most which is understandable and next in line was most Laker fans casue they wanted James to rot in Cleveland. It's a "James vs. Kobe" with most of you guys, especially you and CL.Not to jump in, but will you guys ever get over this, "Oh it was only you Laker fans and Cleveland fans". I know you like to say it to fit your argument, but you guys cannot tell me that people hating the decision at the time wasn't a NATIONAL thing. Remember I said "at the time" because I could really care less about it 2 years later, just bringing up my point of view on it.
Kobe spurned the Nets before the draft was even held. He didn't have the balls to even try to build a winner. Both James and Bosh saw it was a priviledge to play in the NBA and didn't act bigger than the game by signing with lottery teams.And Lebron not sticking it out with Cleveland is any better?!? But oh it's ok for Lebron to leave Cleveland for a better situation(which I honestly don't mind) because nothing Lebron does is wrong...but if Kobe opts for someone besides the Nets, it's an outrage.
I'm going by what HE HIMSELF said.He also said later that same day "I want to be a Laker for life".
Remember I said "at the time" because I could really care less about it 2 years later, just bringing up my point of view on it.
And Lebron not sticking it out with Cleveland is any better?!? But oh it's ok for Lebron to leave Cleveland for a better situation(which I honestly don't mind) because nothing Lebron does is wrong...but if Kobe opts for someone besides the Nets, it's an outrage.
He also said later that same day "I want to be a Laker for life"."I don't want to go anywhere else. I want to be here for the rest of my career. It was encouraging to hear that."
Later Monday, he had two different messages for the Los Angeles-area media.
"I can only hope that they do something because I don't want to go no place else. I don't want to," he told radio station KLAC. "I want to stay here. I hope they can do something."
Still later, he told the Los Angeles Times in an interview that he wouldn't mind a trade. Speaking at 8:27 p.m. ET, according to the Times, he said: "Nothing's changed. It's just a matter of I don't want to go no place else. I don't have much of a choice. When things like this go down, you just sit back. What can I do? It's like a broken record."
The Times asked Bryant if he still wanted to be traded.
"Yes," he said.
J_D, what do you expect, me to pretend/forget it never happened?Remember I said "at the time" because I could really care less about it 2 years later, just bringing up my point of view on it.That's fine. But some Laker fans can't get over it and continue to use it as an excuse as if a crime was committed.