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December 14, 2012 8:01 pm

This just happened where I live, the real story came out today. Maniacal people are everywhere!

An Ontario County woman is charged with murder in connection with the death of her husband. The Ontario County Sheriff's Office confirms that 31-year-old Rose Chase was arraigned Friday for the murder of her husband, Adam Chase, who had been missing for six months.

It's an otherwise peaceful neighborhood on Hagerty Road in the tiny Town of Potter, where on Thursday police found what they believe are the charred, dismembered remains of 31-year-old Adam Chase.

"The Ontario County Sheriff's Office has arrested Rose M. Chase,” said Ontario County Sheriff Phil Povero, “on a charge of murder in the 2nd degree."

The wife of Adam Chase is accused of killing her husband by pushing him down two flights of stairs at the family home in Stanley.

"The remains of Mr. Chase may have been not only cremated, but may have been... the body may have been cut up,” Povero said.

"He was a great guy, and he doesn't deserve what Rose did to him. He doesn't deserve it at all,” Dietsche said.

Dietsche was one of about two dozen friends and family of Adam Chase who came to hear what authorities announced at the Ontario County Jail. Edward had known Adam a little more than a year by the time he went missing last June.

"When Chase went missing, we all thought he was dead. But just to hear it... it just brings a tear to my eye. You never think it would happen."

"Those of us that are rational, normal human beings have a hard time understanding why people take the actions they take," Povero said.

Sheriff Phil Povero confirmed that Rose and Adam had a four-year-old son together. The boy is now in the custody of Social Services.

Rose is jailed without bail. She will face a judge on Wednesday.

For a man once missing, now gone, his friends are at a loss.

"I'm sorry... no words for it,” Dietsche said.


Khepera93
SinceJan 6, 2011
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December 14, 2012 8:11 pm

Her is another one not far from where my wife words. It is a societal problem.

ROMULUS, N.Y.  — When Levi Karlsen was crushed to death while fixing up a pickup truck four years ago, authorities in his quiet county thought it was a sad mishap. But now they say his death was no accident: His father has been charged with murdering him for insurance money.

Karl Karlsen, who initially told police he'd found his son's motionless body trapped under the truck, was being held without bail Saturday in the Seneca County jail in New York's Finger Lakes region. The 52-year-old father was arrested Friday after an eight-month reinvestigation of a death that had long since been ruled an accident.

The case also is prompting a new look at a 1991 California fire that killed Karlsen's first wife.

The family's phone wasn't accepting messages Saturday, and jail officials didn't know whether Karl Karlsen had a lawyer.

Levi Karlsen, 23, died in November 2008 while working on a truck in a barn on the family's property in Romulus, about 55 miles southwest of Syracuse. A distraught Karl Karlsen told sheriff's deputies he had returned from a family event and found the truck had toppled off a jack and trapped his son underneath.

"There were no indications of foul play, and from all signs, this appeared to be a very tragic accident," Seneca County Sheriff Jack Stenberg said in a press statement.

But then, this March, the sheriff's office learned about a life insurance policy on Levi Karlsen, taken out just days before his death, with his father as sole beneficiary. Investigators took another look at the circumstances surrounding the alleged accident and concluded that Karl Karlsen made the truck fall on his son, went to the family gathering and returned to make a show of supposedly discovering his son's body, Stenberg said.

"To think that a father could cause a vehicle to fall off a jack, crushing his son, and then leave for four hours — knowing all the time that his son was pinned under the truck, apparently dead — is unconscionable," the sheriff said.

He said his office and other authorities were now looking into the 1991 blaze that took the life of Christina Karlsen, the defendant's first wife. The sheriff's office declined to give further details Saturday.

She was killed in a New Year's Day fire that engulfed the couple's home, her father, Art Alexander, told The Post-Standard of Syracuse on Saturday. He said his former son-in-law told investigators he'd been in the garage when the blaze began.

Karl Karlsen said he managed to rescue Levi, then 5, and the couple's two other children by pulling them to safety through a bedroom window but couldn't get to his wife, Alexander recalled. He said Karlsen ended up with $200,000 in insurance money and used it to buy the property in Romulus.

Alexander told The Post-Standard he always had questions about the fire but was afraid he'd be cut off from his grandchildren if he broached the subject with Karlsen.

"Just to keep it bottled up — it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life," he told the newspaper.


Khepera93
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December 14, 2012 8:13 pm

WE HAVE A VERY SICK COUNTRY.


Sadly Geo, you are right on the money.
Khepera93
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December 14, 2012 10:13 pm

What is going on in this world.....killing 20 kids and others???? I just don't get it...WHY. Was he trying to get his 2 minutes of fame??? Killing little kids he has never meet or know. SICKKKKKYell 
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December 14, 2012 11:02 pm

Yo Padak!!!
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December 15, 2012 2:01 am

 It is a societal problem.

I'm 100% with ya, K93.  And to tie-in with what EL ELL said .. and with what you said.... it's a societal problem that SO MANY guns are available to SO MANY people - including psychopaths/sociopaths/the societally crippled/deranged ... and on and on .. NEARLY EVERYONE.

"Guns don't kill people.  People kill people."  We've all heard that.  Depending on how one looks at it, I suppose the statement is either true or false.  I believe it is true.  And I believe it's a fact that "People don't kill people, with guns, if they don't have guns."

Sure, gun availability reduction/gun control .. whatever you want to call it .. wouldn't stop all whackos from killing folk.  Timothy McVeigh and others (on smaller scales) still woulda done their evil deeds .. but Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora and now, Newtown, would likely not have happened.  Not to mention countless other murders and other violent crimes ... that wouldn't happen without easy access to guns.
Mudsville Geo
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December 15, 2012 7:05 am

Sadness.
abez2
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December 15, 2012 10:02 am

Morning folks ..

sad .. and a major tradgedy .. thoughts out to all affected.

but . a little story for those that wish to ban GUNS ...

Austrailia bought into the gun ban . Only collectors were allowed to keep them. Under that agreement,the collections had to have the following. Firing pins removed and stored elswhere from the firearms, and ammo had to be stored in a third place.The lawful Austrailians turned in all other firearms. Pictures in the news showed piles of guns.Within a few months the government had to add a new crime to the books, HOME INVASION. Instead of burglars coming when people aren't home,they come when people are home. Without fearing a gun reprisal,criminals became bolder.Laws don't mean nothing to a criminal,but another gun is the last thing they want to encounter.
 Instead of blaming an object,how about we enforce the laws on the books. Section off some large area of land and dump the criminals in for the time periods  they were sentenced to.


also the SECOND reason for not banning guns...

wildlife control.. hunting plays a HUGE role in keeping harmful species at liveable levels . Even nonaggresive species such as deer benefits both man and beast. Your drivers insureance is lower as a result of deer hunting . Culling the deer herd reduce deer accidents with vehicles.Also large revenues come from the sale of hunting licenses.Moste states use that for thier parks and forest reserve programs.

sooo .. because a FEW crimes happen with a leagally owned gun ... we're going to take away the constitutional right to bear arms .. 

quit knee jerk reacting .. there are solutions .. like ENFORCING THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS... and .... TRUTH IN SENTENCING LAWS...lastly .. HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE,guns are only guns,and people make them deadly.


peace to you and yours .. may the morrow be all you wish for

pckfan
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December 15, 2012 10:22 am

Morning B&G


Lights candles for the innocent that the COWARD may he rot in eternal HELL .



I am a gun owner . i have a couple of them & yes one is a assult rifle that my father bought for me in 78 as a Christmas present . a Ruguer semi auto Mini 14 . it is a great Groud Hog weapon with a sight attached to it .a 12 gauage shotty for home defense and a .357 Mangnum Ruguer service 6 i have had also since the late seventies .

i have no solution to any of this except maybe screen those for mental issues who are attempting to buy new weapons .they already do that so whats next ?  that still wont stop anybody from buying one off the "street"  somewhere .

after the past week i am getting my carry liscense . at least i will be able to defend myself and family friends that are with me if God forbid some whack job decides to snap .

bluezhound32
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December 15, 2012 10:31 am

Bluez Bowl bash is up on Yahoo ..straight picks just for fun


League ID# 7503

League PW - bucks



First game is today at 1:00


i know its late i hope some read this in time . i have had the crud pretty bad here and really havent pimped it much .


Good luck to all . have fun with it if ya  join
bluezhound32
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December 15, 2012 11:20 am

I don't think guns should be banned.
People make them deadly.  Yep.  I'm with ya on that.
Enforcing laws that are already on the books?  Yep - for that, too.

Reducing/controlling the number of guns, in general, that are available to pretty much anyone?  Yep - definitely for that.

The belief that one of our societal problems is the fact that too many guns are floating around out there?  Particularly automatic weapons, whether they be legally or illegally obtained?  Yep - I definitely have it.

There's really no good reason for these assault rifles to be available.
Mudsville Geo
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December 15, 2012 11:35 am

I respect your views muds .
one clarification for you . truely automatic weapons need a special permit from FTA to own. you have to apply for a special permit which triggers an FBI background check.
the guns you are refering to as "automatic" are really semi-auto. You need to pull the trigger for every round fired. Now people can and do make them auto fire. but there again that is illeagally done. thus a criminal act.

to limit is the first step to ban. criminals don't care . they will always have thier guns.you only punish the lawabiding citizen for following the laws.

pckfan
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December 15, 2012 12:17 pm

D00d on CNN said it well, basically .. the shortcomings of our mental health system in controlling the violent/potentially violent "patients", combined with the high availability of powerful weapons in our society.

Bad recipe.  Societal problem, as K93 said.  Gun problem = subset of societal problem.
Mudsville Geo
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December 15, 2012 12:17 pm

horrendous hug your children and grandchildren
jpsdone
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December 15, 2012 12:36 pm

HELP.......









I'm not dealing with this Mass Shooting in Newtown CT very well.....THIS IS ABOUT CHILDREN.........INNOCENT CHILDREN that were Murdered.




I'm sorry for been emotional.........but it is really bothering me............Cry







KUDOS to.......... pck,Geo,bluez,Padak.............for writing Post's that come from your heart and explaning to me about Guns in the United States.



I think you all agree there is a problem ???............I believe that the Solution to fix the Problem is some sort of Control.



These Mass Shootings have become a HUGE problem since Virgina Tech and sadly they seem to be getting worse.




Question for ALL Amercians........You cannot change the 2nd Amendment.......CORRECT ???.......BUT I just wish your Nation would adopt some sort of Control for Guns........I love the United States and visit your country quite often.....BUT the Guns do bother me......Look what happened in Portland OR. just last week......



.....People Kill People..... so make it harder with Amendments for the People to get a Gun....just my opinion.




Good morning B&G....

......this is a sad day in the WORLD..........every country is feeling the pain of this story from Sandy Hook.


My Thoughts and Prayers are with the Families of the Victims........I cannot imagine their pain.......Cry



I'm going to leave for a bit and try to deal with this...........Phog will tell me to go Christmas Shopping.......LOL



MERRY CHRISTMAS B&G..............              
  

  
     



   
Larry Lava
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December 15, 2012 1:10 pm

shutup already larry
ArodsUnderWear
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December 15, 2012 1:31 pm

Sadness.
abez2
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