Tag:Terrelle Pryor
Posted on: October 18, 2011 8:27 pm

Trade for Palmer an indictment on Terrelle Pryor?

Upon hearing the news of the Raiders' expensive trade for veteran quarterback Carson Palmer, I called around to a few league sources to gauge their reaction.

All were surprised that the Raiders gave up what they did -- their 2012 first round pick and at least their second round pick of the 2013 draft. One league scout, who requested anonymity, but allowed me to identify him as NOT an employee of the Raiders, brought up an interesting point.

Why make this trade if you're Oakland unless you've been less than impressed with former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor, whom the Raiders selected in the third round of the supplemental draft in August.

It was a commonly held belief among scouts that Pryor needed significant time before he could realistically be expected to start at quarterback in the NFL. Still, with plenty of street free agent and backup quarterbacks throughout the league available at a fraction of Palmer's cost, clearly the Raiders aren't just adding the former No. 1 overall pick of the 2003 draft for their immediate needs, but for their future, as well.
Posted on: August 25, 2011 11:14 am

McAdoo, King, Wilson, Mace sign deals

The NFL's supplemental draft came and went Monday with Terrelle Pryor being the only one of the six eligible players to get drafted.

Since, three others have signed NFL free agent contracts. Another has signed with the IFL. Only former Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones remains without a deal to play for a professional team.

Michael McAdoo signed with the Baltimore Ravens a day after the draft. He had been pursued by a few teams, but surprised clubs by showing up to pre-draft team visits in the neighborhood of 230 pounds. McAdoo had been listed by North Carolina at 6-7, 245 pounds. The former defensive end will be asked to play outside linebacker for Baltimore.

Caleb King signed with the Minnesota Vikings yesterday (Wednesday). Like McAdoo, King surprised teams with his build -- and not necessarily in a good way. He appeared to be "out of shape" according to Tom Pellisero and dropped two passes in his practice debut with the club. King had been viewed by some as a potential draft pick, until being clocked at only 4.71 seconds in the 40-yard dash in a pre-draft workout.

Perhaps the most interesting signing is Wilson, who was signed yesterday by the New York Jets. Wilson, 6-2, 203 pounds, didn't receive much in terms of pre-draft buzz due to a "pro-day" workout that some teams characterized as "not NFL caliber." The Jets clearly didn't agree and it is difficult to argue with Wilson's success at Northern Illinois. He posted 171 tackles over the past three years for the Huskies, recovering four fumbles and intercepting a pass during that time, as well.

There was a lot of buzz, on the other hand, about Mace. While Mace did generate some interest from clubs prior to and following the draft, it was discovered that he could not sign with an NFL team due to a pre-existing contract with the UFL. Mace has signed with the Omaha Nighthawks, as first reported via Twitter by the team's general manager Rick Mueller. Mueller had worked previously in the NFL, serving as a scout and college scouting director with the Jacksonville Jaguars (1994-2000) before moving on to be the Director and later Vice President of Player Personnel with the New Orleans Saints (2000-2008). 
Posted on: August 22, 2011 1:39 pm
Edited on: August 22, 2011 2:36 pm

Pryor taken by OAK (3rd rd) in draft's only move

The supplemental draft always brings with it a certain amount of hype. Fans hoping that their team might add one more talented player to the roster before the season begins will always pay some attention to the event.

The 2011 supplemental draft carried even more intrigue that most, however, due to the presence of Terrelle Pryor and as well as the presence of a few other legitimate NFL-caliber prospects. The draft was for six players the NFL found eligible. Alphabetically, they are: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, Georgia running back Caleb King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson.

Pryor was selected by the Raiders in the third round. It is not known if any other teams put in a 3rd round bid for Pryor. Certainly none did who owned a pick higher than the Raiders, who a source charactized as picking "in the middle of the pack." The draft order is not released to the media, though I was able to learn that the Dallas Cowboys had been rewarded with the first pick and the Pittsburgh Steelers with the last one. Therefore, the Cowboys and according to the source several other clubs passed on Pryor in the third round before Oakland.***

The draft order is not determined by simply win/loss records as in the April draft. The 32 teams are placed into three groups and a weighted lottery is conducted to determine the order. For a more detailed explanation, see here.

As it turned out, Pryor was the only player selected.

Pryor has an exceptionally rare -- perhaps never before seen -- combination of size and straight-line speed for the quarterback position. He lacks the decision-making skills, anticipation and accuracy at this time, however, to enjoy consistent success as a full-time quarterback playing against NFL defenses. What he does offer is an athletic phenom capable of running, passing and receiver from specialized sets. He could be an extraordinary Wildcat option.

It will be interesting to see how the Raiders believe Pryor fits into their current roster. The team has an obvious starter in Jason Campbell and two former starters vying for the primary backup position in Kyle Boller and Trent Edwards. The team also has undrafted rookie Jordan La Secla on the roster. Most teams keep three quarterbacks during the regular seasons, so La Secla and either Boller or Edwards are likely heading to the waiver wire soon.

There is also the possibility that the Raiders are one of the teams that believes Pryor's NFL future lies at wide receiver or tight end. Al Davis' love of speed knows no bounds. There is always an opportunity to see the field in Oakland if one possesses enough speed and playmaking ability.

The five remaining players not selected can sign with any team as an undrafted free agent. King, Mace and McAdoo are expected to draw the most attention.

***ESPN.com's Adam Schefter is reporting that the Raiders owned the 18th pick of the draft.
Posted on: August 22, 2011 9:42 am

What to expect in today's supplemental draft

Pushed back over a month from its regularly scheduled date due to the lockout and a bizarre controversy over player eligibility (Terrelle Pryor), the NFL's supplemental draft will begin today at 1 pm Eastern.

This draft, unlike the one in April, will be carried out via email. Teams won't even known the order until approximately 30 minutes prior to the draft. There will be no television cameras in the war rooms. The event won't spark much more than passing interest from your local sports media outlets -- unless, of course, your team elects to draft one of the six players deemed eligible. Alphabetically, they are: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, Georgia running back Caleb King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson.

The vast majority of the focus on these six players has been on Terrelle Pryor -- and for good reason. At this point, he is the only player seemingly assured of being selected. Though his workout was not nearly as impressive in its totality as his 4.38-4.41 second 40-yard dash was to begin the Pro Day, the speed shown by the 6043 (six foot, four and 3/8"), 232 pound has definitely created a buzz. I have consistently heard the Steelers, Raiders and Bengals are the three teams most interested in adding Pryor. There has been a lot of talk of a third round pick. The fact that Pryor is suspended for nearly a third of the regular season might push him down a round or two.

King has also generated a great deal of interest. There were at least seven teams at his Pro Day workout last week, including Washington, Kansas City, Tampa Bay and Buffalo. Media reports following the workout had King (listed at 5-11, 225) as having run in the 4.4s. According to one high level league source, however, King's "officially" was measured at 5106 (five foot, ten and 3/4") and 211 pounds. He was timed at 4.71 seconds in the 40-yard dash on an ideal outdoor field turf surface. King has some power as an interior runner, flashes an impressive spin move and shows some lateral agility to avoid defenders. As his slow time suggests, however, he does not have the speed to gain yardage in big chunks against NFL competition. One element of his game that will help his cause is that King is a physical and responsible pass blocker. Still, measuring in slower and lighter than expected, King is looking at a late round (6th-7th) selection, at best. He will almost surely be signed as a free agent if not drafted.

McAdoo is thought by some to be the most intriguing of the remaining prospects. Listed at 6-7, 245 pounds, however, scouts were surprised when he instead showed up to some private workouts in the 230s. McAdoo's length and surprising strength still make him quite a developmental prospect as a pass rusher. He flashed throughout his career and appeared poised to enjoy a real breakout season as Robert Quinn's primary backup for UNC. McAdoo could get a late round sniff, but the feeling among most teams is that he'll slip to free agency.

Mace was signed by the Dallas Cowboys out of the IFL following a collegiate career at Lindenwood University. After a few days practicing with the Cowboys, however, Mace was informed that because he signed with Dallas having not used up all of collegiate eligibility (and not petitioning the NFL for early entry), he was not allowed to be on an NFL roster yet until having gone through the supplemental draft. At roughly 6-4, 313 pounds, Mace played defensive tackle at Lindenwood before switching to defensive end for the Allen Wranglers. He is at his best inside, showing a quick burst off the snap and good strength. He does not possess the lateral agility and closing speed to make many stops outside of the tackle box, but plays with effort and has an intriguing big body capable of contributing to a team using either front. Most teams view his best position as a three-technique defensive tackle for the 4-3. Opinions vary signficantly with Mace. Many clubs view him as a free agent, though there have been some rumblings that he could sneak ahead of King and McAdoo and be a 6th or 7th round pick.

Unfortunately for Jones and Wilson, there does not seem to be a great deal of interest from NFL clubs. Wilson's Pro Day workout was taken in by a few teams, though the NIU safety was unable to demonstrate the caliber of athleticism scouts were looking for.

Posted on: August 21, 2011 1:41 pm

Pick order given to teams 30 min before draft

The NFL scheduled the weighted lottery to determine the selection order for Monday's supplemental draft for today, but that doesn't mean teams will get this information immediately.

In fact, according to a league source, the NFL is expected to continue the policy of teams getting the selection order approximately 30 minutes before the start of the draft. The draft will be conducted via email and is scheduled to start at 1 pm Eastern.

Each round takes ten minutes. Teams have the option of submitting a claim on a player or passing on the round. Teams also have the option of passing on all prior to the draft if they know that they won't be putting in a claim at all.

Unlike the televised April draft, the selection order is not completely determined by win/loss percentage. Teams are lumped into three groups based on their winning percentage from the preceding the year and then a lottery is conducted. Put simply, despite the fact that the Carolina Panthers owned the first pick of April's draft, they aren't guaranteed to have the first pick Monday.

And they -- or any other team -- won't know it until moments before the draft.

There are seven players eligible for the draft. Alphabetically, they are: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, Georgia running back Caleb King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson.

Of the seven, only Pryor appears assured of being selected.
Posted on: August 20, 2011 6:07 pm

Fast 40, but workout #s otherwise not impressive

I'm not sure what went faster today -- the 6-4 (3/8), 232 pound Terrelle Pryor in the forty yard dash or, the buzz around him in the seconds afterward, as scouts registered that sizzling time in their heads and word spread throughout the internet and texting community.

4.38-4.41 seconds is an accurate time for both.

However, as impressive as Pryor was in the straight-line speed portion of the workout, he was stunningly average in several other athletic portions of the event.

According to a league source, Pryor was timed at 4.3 seconds in the short-shuttle and 7.2 seconds in the three-cone drill

He also had a 31" vertical jump and a 10'4" broad jump.

The source characterized the results as "not that great of workout numbers for a supposedly great athlete."

No kidding. 

While Pryor's broad jump would have ranked among the better results among quarterbacks tested at the 2010 Combine, his vertical and short shuttle results were very average in comparison to other quarterbacks tested there.

His three cone time would have rated second to last among all of the quarterbacks tested. The only quarterback slower in this drill was Texas A&M's Jerrod Johnson, who timed at 7.28/7.31 in the event. Former Fresno State quarterback Ryan Colburn, as a comparison, was one of the slower quarterbacks in the 40-yard dash, timing as poorly as 5.23 seconds in the event last February, but this relatively slow-footed quarterback was timed alarmingly faster in the three-cone drill (6.84 seconds) than Pryor.

Pryor would have been the slowest of the receivers tested in this event. He also would have been slower than virtually all of the tight ends.

The three-cone drill is designed to test a player's balance, ability to change directions and burst.

We all know Pryor is a phenomenal athlete. His ability to shake defenders and surprise them with his acceleration are among his most impressive traits. The fact that Pryor tested so poorly in this drill leads me to wonder if he tired early or perhaps didn't take this particular part of the workout as seriously as others. Or, perhaps he simply isn't as quick for the watch as he appears to be on tape.

Regardless, it doesn't bode well for his chances at successfully converting to receiver or tight end.

Posted on: August 20, 2011 3:01 pm

Pryor dazzles 17 teams w/speed. Less so w/ arm?

Former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor proved both dazzling and perhaps a bit disappointing Saturday in hastily organized "Pro Day" workout at a Hempfield (Pa) high school in front of a collection of scouts, front office executives, Pittsburgh head coach Mike Tomlin and even Indianapolis Colts' owner Jim Irsay.

Former Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel was also on hand for the workout, showing his support for the player some blame for the program's recent troubles.

Measuring in at 6-5, 232 pounds Pryor wowed onlookers with his straight-line speed early in the workout, posting times between 4.38-4.41 seconds on a soft FieldTurf surface, according to Zac Jackson's Twitter feed. The soft turf generally slows a player down, at least in comparison to a hard turf or track surface. Therefore, these are lightning fast times for Pryor; ones certain to boost the intrigue of teams considering the playmaker.

As impressive as Pryor was running for the stopwatch, he did not run routes or catch passes as a receiver and was apparently less impressive when throwing the ball. While he threw a tight spiral on many of his throws, he also threw a "duck" after instructing one of his four receivers on hand which route to run and there were several incompletions, according to Jackson.

According to The NFL Network's Albert Breer, Pryor completed 27 of 39 passes. Of the 12 incompletions, Breer counted four drops.

Having not been at Pryor's workout, myself, I can't fairly grade his performance during the throwing session. I have been to multiple Pro Day workouts from quarterbacks, most notably Sam Bradford's, Mark Sanchez's and Jake Locker's. Passes rarely hit the ground during these orchestrated workouts with no defenders.

There were 17 teams present at the workout: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Miami, New England, New Orleans, Oakland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Diego, San Francisco, Tampa Bay and Washington.

While the fact that more than half of the league's teams were represented at the Pro Day shows that there is a great deal of interest in the former Buckeye, it also should be noted that there were only a few decision-makers on hand. Most of the scouts in attendance were lower-level area scouts, likely close by due to their normal scouting responsibilities at local colleges during the late summer months. The Steelers, not surprisingly given their close proximity, were well represented. Besides Tomlin, Director of Football Operations Kevin Colbert was also reportedly at the workout. Irsay tweeted that his Colts are "not taking Pryor" though he also mentioned that his team is "evaluating the QB [situation]."

The workout, while exciting, isn't likely to change the opinions of teams heading towards Monday's supplemental draft. I've argued for a long time that Pryor is quite an intriguing prospect at wide receiver. He, however, has indicated a strong preference for remaining at quarterback, though he did tell teams and the assembled media at the workout today that he'd play any position asked.

As a quarterback, Pryor's average accuracy and decision-making means that he's at minimum a two-year project for playing the traditional quarterback role. He could, however, make a significant and exciting contribution early in his career as a glorified Wildcat option for a club.

His athleticism and size are such a unique combination that Pryor most likely will earn a middle to late round pick. Most expect that it will come in the 4th to 5th round.
Posted on: August 18, 2011 9:53 am
Edited on: August 18, 2011 9:54 am

Supplemental re-scheduled for Monday; Pryor in

The NFL has alerted its 32 teams that the league's annual Supplemental Draft will take place on Monday, August 22 and that former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor has been added to the list of players eligible to be selected.

Teams now have six total players to consider. They are, in alphabetical order: Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, Georgia running back King, Lindenwood University/Allen Wranglers (IFL) defensive end Keenan Mace, North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo, Pryor and Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson.

The NFL has taken some heat for its handling of Pryor and re-shuffling of the draft. The draft, like all things connected to the league, was originally postponed due to the prolonged CBA negotiations. Generally, the draft is held on or around July 15, approximately 10 days prior to the opening of training camps. This year teams were originally informed that the draft would take place yesterday (Wednesday, August 17) before the league announced that it was pushing the draft back indefinitely, presumably to further investigate whether Pryor should be allowed eligibility.

Ultimately, the NFL did relent and allow Pryor in, though the former Buckeye quarterback certainly isn't getting off easily for his role in the "tattoo scandal" that rocked the university and contributed to Jim Tressel losing his job.

Per the NFL's release, Pryor is eligible to be selected in the supplemental draft, but he will NOT be allowed to practice or play in the first five games of the 2011 season.

Forcing Pryor to remain off the field for roughly a third of the season will have a definite impact on his draft stock. I've spoken to several teams with interest in the dynamic running/passing threat, with many teams suggesting that a middle round pick was likely needed to secure his services. Ineligible to play for that long could push Pryor into the fifth round. Of the remaining players in the draft, McAdoo and King are the likeliest to also get drafted, though both appear to have late round prospects, at best.

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