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Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

Posted on: March 2, 2012 4:17 pm
The Saints are overextended financially and don't have the salary cap space to retain key fixtures on their roster. They've backed themselves into a corner with likely franchise player Drew Brees, which might cost them free-agents-to-be Carl Nicks and Marques Colston.

What to do? Reload in the draft, of course.

Not in New Orleans.

The Saints don't have a first-round pick in 2012 draft -- dealt in 2011 to get back into the first round and draft RB Mark Ingram 28th overall.

And with the NFL releasing details of the investigation into the Gregg Williams-run -- and apparently Sean Payton, GM Mickey Loomis approved -- defensive bounty system, the Saints are about to lose much, much more.

Consider that in 2007 when SpyGate punishment finally was handed down for Bill Belichick, he was fined a maximum $500,000 and the Patriots were stripped of their first-round draft pick in 2008. This for secretly filming Jets coaches from the sideline, with a video assistant having a camera confiscated as evidence.

The transgressions outlined in the NFL security investigation clearly warrant a penalty far exceeding the fine Belichick and the Patriots paid. Belichick paid 14 percent of his annual salary of $4.2 million and the Patriots coughed up another quarter-million, plus draft compensation.

New Orleans can expect Payton to be fined heavily and likely suspended at least one game. Loomis might be judged harshly considering his overseer capacity with the organization and owner Tom Benson might even act separately. Williams is now gone -- hired by the Rams in January -- but the Saints will pay the steep price.

With Goodell stumping for player safety, and the Saints coaches and players flying in the face of that platform with their actions and essentially taunting the harsh rules enforcement for illegal hits, hell to pay will most definitely mean the subtraction of assets.

If Goodell really wanted to stir the nest, he'd rescind the Saints ability to use the franchise tag for two seasons (bye, bye, Brees?).

More likely, he'll take away the team's draft picks -- second round, third round and maybe more -- and leave Loomis and Payton to figure out how to fill the roster holes left by players departing in free agency without meaningful draft picks or the scratch to be major players in veteran acquisition.

The Saints have found value late in the draft -- Colston (7th round), Jermon Bushrod (4th round), Zach Strief (7th) -- but could be in a situation where they first pick outside the top 100.

Saints 2012 draft picks
2nd round (59th overall)
3rd round (90th overall)
4th round (122nd overall)
5th round (154th overall)
6th round (166th overall) - via Redskins for Jammal Brown
6th round (167th overall) - via Dolphins for Reggie Bush
7th round (217th overall)  
Category: NFL Draft
Tags: bounty, draft, Saints

Since: Jan 21, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:53 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

Get a life you low life.  Hopefully you will find yourself in a natural disaster where everything you own is lost and then you can see how funny you think it is.  Trash.

Since: Oct 7, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2012 4:24 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

Anybody who has laced 'em up knows that stickers on the helmet and cash bounties are motivational shortcuts that coach’s use. Not knowing how to properly motivate a player is a systemic problem from pee-wee to pro's and needs to be discussed on a larger platform.

Since: Apr 21, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 2:25 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

The NFL should avoid imposing penalties that may upset the competitive balance in the league. Penalties such as draft and playoff restrictions would not only be excessive, but would strike directly at the credibility of competition in the NFL. Hit the teams and coaches hard with fines. Also, the NFL should demonstrate its credibility by not imposing NCAA-style penalties that penalize teams and players that had nothing to do with the violations, such as not suspending new Rams coach Williams. Stiff fines will hand out serious penalties that will correct the issue and serve as deterrents. As always, the media frenzy is an admixture of sanctimonious BS and polemical excess. The same sports writers who agonized and deeply criticized over new tackling restrictions are now, entirely predictably, falling on their swords for draconian penalties for violations that, ironically, threaten the safety of players.

Since: Jan 24, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 10:12 am

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

I guess the media love fest is finally coming to an end.  Seems like the media darling saints are getting exposed for who they are.  The media milked the Katrina thing what nearly 5 years... What a joke!  Their dumba$$ mayor was so stupid, he couldnt even get his people out of that cesspool and blamed the president for his/their own ignorance.  Fines? Please, the aints are begging for fines. Fines don't accomplish jack!  These men are so wealthy, they would love to see some pathetic fines so they can get right back to their corruption.  New Orleans has a long heritage of corruption, now it has infiltrated thier football team.  Payton and Loomis MUST be fired if Benson and the NFL do what is appropriate!  Money has crossed hands and payments have been made for crippling opposing players! Heads MUST roll folks!  The owner specifically addressed this by telling Loomis to end this crap.  Payton, the head coach no less, was fully aware of the NFL and Bensons wishes to end this travesty.  But NOTHING was done, it was condoned and hidden and covered up!!
How does this warrant anything but being fired.  The legal ramifications haven't even kicked in yet.  Dungy believes this hit-man program is the root cause of Peyton Mannings injuries.  Lets use Joe Paterno for example.  He REPORTED to his superiors the inappropriate behavior of one of his coaches when he found out about the disgusting behavior.  He was FIRED immediately and he had nothing to do with it.  Payton, not only knew about it, he was told to get rid of this bounty BS.  Payton turned his head and was part of the lies and cover up!!  Does that sound like a head coach who should keep his job??  Hmmm!  Its a no-brainer mister benson!  Do the right thing and fire him immediately.  Just wait till after the suspensions, when fans will be holding embarrassing signs calling Payton and staff out for years to come...  Hell, payton just got over the pain pills cover up, now this...  2nd and 3rd gone this year, and 1st rounder next year since they have no 1st this year. 

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: March 4, 2012 3:00 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

Roger Goddell has no choice but to lay the smack down on New Orleans.... Not only has Goddell been beating the drum about player safety but there are various lawsuits stacking up against the NFL for safety issues from retired players. I grant you the NFL lawyers maybe able to utilize that the players participating in the bounty program (Vilma putting up 10k, et al) contributed to the concussion/safety issue. If Goddell does not take swift and firm action for this illegal activity as it pertains to player safety it will come back to haunt him and the NFL as it pertains to the lawasuits that have been filed.

I really like the idea of voiding the Saints ability to use the Franchise Tag as well as taking draft choices away. In order for the loss of the franchise tag this year I would think Goddell would have to act now since Monday is the deadline for the tag.

Wow what a tangled web we weave..... 

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2012 12:26 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

All good posts, except for the first, by the Saints fan who has already gotten his wish, from the actions of his own team.  One has to wonder how many players they seriously injured, careers cut short, and if they legitmately would have made it to the Super Bowl in 2009, had they played by the rules.  They could not have thought much of their team if the only way to win was to take out the other teams key players. The scale of jusstice has to lead to severe fines, susspensions and punishment for all involved.  Williams trail of bounty hunting is now finding it's way to Washington and even to Buffalo where he was Head Coach.  Clearly a prescedent must be sent, for the reprecussions of not sending a extremely strong message will have the reverse effect on conduct from the rest of the league going forward.  Williams, mnimum 2 year suspension, Peyton, 4 game suspension, with maximum fines.  Loomis, maximum fine, loss of franchise tag this year, along with 2nd and 3rd rounders this year, and 1st and 2nd round draft picks next year.  Maximum fines to the organization.  Fines to layers proven to either have taken money or contributed money to the pot, like Abraham, who also deserves an 8 game suspension.  These players carried out the dirty work and to injure a player and possibly cripple him for life, while they get away with just a fine, is hypocrisy.

Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2012 12:11 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

A $750,000.00 fine and 1-game suspension for Sean Payton; another $1,000,000.00 fine for the Saints organization, and/or the members therein; a $3,500,000.00 and a n indefinite suspension to Gregg Williams (yes, you just read that right); the nullification of the Saints 2012 2nd and 3rd round draft selections; finally, the rescinding of their 2012 and 2013 franchise options, the only reason being so that Drew Brees (who really is a nice guy) has the means to escape Hell.

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2012 10:36 am

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

Blow me

Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2012 8:17 am

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

This story finally explains Williams' defenses falling apart in the Saints' last two playoff games again Seattle and San Francisco. As both games were on the road, Williams obviously could not locate an ATM. Wink

Since: May 1, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2012 11:09 pm

Bounty? Saints could pay dearly in draft

They deserve any and everything they get from the commish.  I just hope it is enough.  I hope they are buried so deep by their punishment, they don't see the light of day for the rest of my life.

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