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Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

Posted on: April 29, 2011 1:12 pm
The Baltimore Ravens want the fourth-round pick they were seeking from the Chicago Bears when the clock ran out on their 26th pick in the first round Thursday night.

Bears general manager Jerry Angelo has apologized for the botched trade, and sources told The Chicago Tribune that Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti told the Bears and commissioner Roger Goodell about his displeasure with how the situation unfolded.

NFL senior vice president of public relations Greg Aiello told The Tribune in an email that, "We are looking into it." However, the league is not expected to take any official action.

The Bears and Ravens were discussing a trade that would have given Baltimore the 29th overall pick and a fourth-round pick to allow Chicago to move up three spots. The Bears wanted Wisconsin offensive tackle Gabe Carimi, who they eventually landed at No. 29 anyway.

The confusion came when Angelo said a pair of Bears staff members thought the other was phoning in the trade. The call never happened and time expired on the Ravens' pick. Kansas City was next on the clock, and jumped in to select Pittsburgh wide receiver Jonathan Baldwin. The Ravens then took Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith, who they were believed to have been targeting in the first place, with the 27th pick.

"It was our fault," Angelo said. "They did everything according to the rules. ... We had a disconnect. Whatever you hear, Baltimore did everything right."

However, Baltimore believes it should have had Chicago's fourth-round pick based on a trade that was agreed to by both sides but botched by the Bears.

--Derek Harper, Executive Editor
Category: NFL Draft

Since: Oct 3, 2008
Posted on: April 30, 2011 10:42 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

A Vikings fan with comments about another team?!  Your team is kind of the joke of the league right now.  How's that Metrodome working out for the Vikes?  How about that reach by drafting Christian Ponder 12th overall?  What was the Vikings record last year?  How many SuperBowls have the Vikings won?  Is Brett going to unretire again?  How about those Minnesota Wild and the T-Wolves?  Yeah, you're really the sports capital of the world right now aren't you!

Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: April 30, 2011 9:59 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

I'm kind of disappointed as a Ravens fan. This organization to me had always been high-class. But this is one of those things where I cannot justify, in any way shape or form, Baltimore's position in this.
 In 2003, they made the mistake the Bears did and let the Vikings fall two spots. In that case as well as this one, the player that was coveted by each time was drafted be each, respectively. So why does the Ravens organization feel entitled to getting a draft pick from the Bears when they themselves pulled the very same move on the Vikings 8 years ago? It just doesn't add up.
I still think very highly of the Ravens front office, though. Anyone who says Jimmy Smith's character issues were waved by the Ravens staff and that it wasn't a big deal to them is lying. Of course it's a big deal. But the Ravens have players and coaches that have a zero-tolerance policy. The organization must've been able to look at Jimmy Smith and know, from a character perspective, that this kid had made mistakes but would not do it again. Ozzie and company would not gamble with a risk like that and jeopardize all that his staff stands for. For example, you can look at the Ravens recently promoted offensive line coach, Andy Moller. He's had three DUIs in his lifetime, all occurring when he was involved in some way with the Ravens. But yet, he was promoted to offensive line coach despite his past because the organization trusted he had learned and would not do it again. It was made very clear to Moller that if there was another run in with the law, his days being a part of the Ravens were over. Now, while I don't think something that extreme was put into affect for Jimmy Smith, I do believe the same type of stance and attitude was taken towards him.
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is this: For all those out there who believe the Ravens shouldn't be compensated for this mishap, I am with you. And while I do think this is a low-class move, it certainly does not make the Ravens automatically a low class organization.

Since: Jul 20, 2010
Posted on: April 30, 2011 8:00 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

YOU need to calm down and take ALL your meds. Short of that - get some professional help with your anger problems. Minnesota did nothing to you, personally. And whether you like their food or beer has nothing to do with sports. It is in best interest you get help before your committed for a involuntary psych exam. Relax - it's sports!

Since: Apr 30, 2011
Posted on: April 30, 2011 7:54 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

Buck Faltimore

Since: Feb 7, 2008
Posted on: April 30, 2011 3:41 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

The deal got F'd up.  The Bears admitted they were at fault. In the end, nothing happens. I'm a Raven's fan ... yes it sucks, but I don't expect anything else to come from it. Innocent or not, the Bears are guilty of doing bad business and having a poorly organized draft War Room. Word to the wise ... do not do business with the Bears. Simple as that!!

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: April 30, 2011 12:49 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: April 30, 2011 12:48 am

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

Since: Apr 12, 2011
Posted on: April 29, 2011 11:31 pm

too bad Baltimore

There is no story here.  Chicago discussed the option of a trade with Baltimore, but never completed the transaction by phoning it in to the league. So they had a conversation. The process wasn't completed...end of story.   No soup for you, Baltimore!

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: April 29, 2011 11:20 pm

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

It should be a moot point, now, since the Bears have already traded the pick in order to make a selection that has already occurred.  Ravens' fans frying about it doesn't change it- the Ravens should have had a guy standing near the podium to announce their pick, and, when it wasn't confirmed by the commish, announced their pick.

Why should the Ravens be entitled to an extra pick?  Maybe they can take advantage of it tomorrow and rape the Bears on a trade of picks since Angelo feels bad about it.  I don't care either way- dislike both teams, but they still made a pick and admittedly got the guy they wanted, so there was no "damage" done.

Since: Jul 18, 2007
Posted on: April 29, 2011 11:15 pm

Ravens want Bears' 4th-rounder from botched trade

I do. I put it on my resume whenever I apply for a job.

Try not putting it on there...maybe you'll land a job

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